Det er absurd, usportslig og urettferdig at Tore Solli er ikke tatt ut til EM i Heerenveen men at han må kjemper med Øystein Grødum i en skate-off for en plass! Du finner alt om saken og Tore her på nettsiden!
Gir meningen din her (klikk på 'comments') om saken og support Tore!
It is absurd and unfair that Tore Solli is not selected for the ECH in Heerenveen but that he has to skate a skate-off against Øystein Grødum for one spot. You will find everything about this case and Tore here on this website!
And give your opinion here (click on 'comments') on this case and support Tore!
Het is belachelijk, onsportief en onrechtvaardig dat Tore Solli niet geselecteerd is voor het EK in Heerenveen maar dat hij een skate-off moet rijden tegen Øystein Grødum om een plaats! Op deze website vind je alles over deze zaak en Tore!
Geef hier je mening over deze zaak (klik op 'comments') en support Tore!
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3th place for Tore Solli
9-11 january 2009
Tore Solli, 3th at the Norwegian Championships Allround, should have been selected for the European Championships immediately. But he has to skate a skate-off first...
NCH Allround 2009
3th place for Tore Solli
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***Updates***
03-01
*New article about how Tore thinks about it all now and the rest of the season in Norwegian and Dutch
02-01
*story about the selection and skate-off published on the Dutch speedskatingnews website ''schaatsenzo''
01-01
*New article from Sandefjords Blad about the skate-off published on this site, also translated in Dutch
*Dutch translation of both letters published
*Open letter of Sandefjord Skøiteklubb to Vibecke Sørensen, president of NSF and the answer of Vibecke Sørensen published on this site
31-12
*link of this site mailed to Øystein Haugen, Vibecke Sørensen and other members of the board of the Norwegian Skating Union
29-12
*link placed on yahoo skatingforum
*''The Norwegian Championships Allround and why Tore should go to Heerenveen'' added
28-12
*link to site published on 2 Dutch skating forums
27-12
*link to site published on 3 Norwegian skating(discussion)sites.
26-12
*Hvem er Tore Solli - Denne sesongen
*what the president of the Norwegian Skating union has to say about the ECH selection (Norwegian & Dutch)
*New article about how Tore thinks about it all now and the rest of the season in Norwegian and Dutch
02-01
*story about the selection and skate-off published on the Dutch speedskatingnews website ''schaatsenzo''
01-01
*New article from Sandefjords Blad about the skate-off published on this site, also translated in Dutch
*Dutch translation of both letters published
*Open letter of Sandefjord Skøiteklubb to Vibecke Sørensen, president of NSF and the answer of Vibecke Sørensen published on this site
31-12
*link of this site mailed to Øystein Haugen, Vibecke Sørensen and other members of the board of the Norwegian Skating Union
29-12
*link placed on yahoo skatingforum
*''The Norwegian Championships Allround and why Tore should go to Heerenveen'' added
28-12
*link to site published on 2 Dutch skating forums
27-12
*link to site published on 3 Norwegian skating(discussion)sites.
26-12
*Hvem er Tore Solli - Denne sesongen
*what the president of the Norwegian Skating union has to say about the ECH selection (Norwegian & Dutch)
Why this website
We are 4 speedskatingfans from Holland and cheer especially for all the Norwegian skaters. So this year we also cheered for Tore during his Worldcupdebut in Berlin and a week later in Heerenveen and saw 2 great races! After the races we spoke a little with Tore and got to know him as a very friendly and nice person.
The National Allroundchampionships were followed by us via Internet with great interest. It was really exciting and in the end we were very happy for Tore that he reached the 3th place and qualification for the ECH (we thought). But in Norway you are never sure till the official selection is published so we waited for that. And to our 'great' suprise we saw that Tore wasn't selected immediately but that he had to skate a skate-off...against Øystein Grødum, 6th at the NCH... Really ridiculous and absurd!!!!
As said is this is by far not the first time that the Norwegian skating union makes unfair and controversial selections and decisions. We are really done with it and won't just let it happen without doing anything. Unfortunately there isn't much that we can do but, with making this website we want at least show our anger about this absurd decision and at the same time support Tore!
We want to make this site known by as much people as possible and hope that a lot of people will give their opinion here! And in this way show the Norwegian Skating Union how absurd their selectionpolicy is!!!
To make it clear, this isn't an action/website against Øystein Grødum. He is absolutely a great skater and a great person! It's only a protest against the absurd decision of the Norwegian Skating Union!
The National Allroundchampionships were followed by us via Internet with great interest. It was really exciting and in the end we were very happy for Tore that he reached the 3th place and qualification for the ECH (we thought). But in Norway you are never sure till the official selection is published so we waited for that. And to our 'great' suprise we saw that Tore wasn't selected immediately but that he had to skate a skate-off...against Øystein Grødum, 6th at the NCH... Really ridiculous and absurd!!!!
As said is this is by far not the first time that the Norwegian skating union makes unfair and controversial selections and decisions. We are really done with it and won't just let it happen without doing anything. Unfortunately there isn't much that we can do but, with making this website we want at least show our anger about this absurd decision and at the same time support Tore!
We want to make this site known by as much people as possible and hope that a lot of people will give their opinion here! And in this way show the Norwegian Skating Union how absurd their selectionpolicy is!!!
To make it clear, this isn't an action/website against Øystein Grødum. He is absolutely a great skater and a great person! It's only a protest against the absurd decision of the Norwegian Skating Union!
ECH Allround @ Thialf, Heerenveen!
9-11 january 2009
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I think it is ridicolous that Tore is not selected immediately for the European Championships, and I hope that this website helps to support him and hopefully make more people aware of the crazy selections that are made and have been made in Norway!
ReplyDeleteIt isn't correct that there has to be a skate-off between the number three and six. It's just one example how stupid Norway selects. It's not that I don't have faith in Tore, I think that he will place him anyway. But it's not the perfect preparation for a EK, and that's too bad. Tore, I wish you good luck and let them see why you are the number three. You can do it!
ReplyDeleteDet burde være en selvfølge at Tore skal få gå EM. Med sine flotte prestasjoner og resultater har han allerede bevist at han er en solid skøyteløper som hele tiden forbedrer seg, selv under vanskelige treningsforhold. Vi som husker den flotte tiden med de 4 S-ene ser for oss en ny S i Tore Solli. Han burde få lade opp til mesterskapet i fred og ro, uten å måtte tenke på nok et løp i forkant. Ikke ødelegg hans motivasjon nå. Da er vi mange som blir skuffet over ledelsen i skøyte-Norge!!!
ReplyDeleteDere glemmer visst at BÅDE WC før jul og NM skal telle ved uttak... Og i WC var vel Grødum hakket hvassere??
ReplyDeleteIf you read better it is said that Worldcupraces also count for the selection in Norway! Grødum was better at that moment, but an European Championship Allround is more than just a 5 or 10k...The other distances ALSO counts...
ReplyDeleteFor now Tore was much better than Grødum overall...but everybody his own opinion...
I just find it ridiculous that the coach of one team has the power to send of the skaters that he wants to see instead of the best, that way his own skaters naturally have more chance to be selected for these kind of championships and that's unfair! Everyone should get an equal chance, and the best skater should be send of to the ECH, not Peter Muellers favourite! I wish Tore all the best and hopes that he wins the skateoff, for he was the best skater of those two at the NM!
ReplyDeleteStå på, Tore! Det er litt urettferdig at du må gå skateoff nå, men hvis det er din tur, fikser du nok den også.
ReplyDeleteLEF
Ja,lett skal det ikke å stikke nesen frem i idretten i Norge.Solli nærmest best i år? iallefall en kjempeinnsats på Gol(fikk med meg 1 dagen),som gjorde sitt til at diskusjonen begynte høyt i Forbundet.(ble de overrasket mon tro)Men til Solli,ikke la dette vippe deg av pinnen,stå på vidre og vis de andre i forbundet hva du kan. Tenk hva du som person sporer dine andre kolegaer i klubben til å følge deg. Lykke til og så håper jeg du får en tur til EM i Herrenveen.
ReplyDeleteArild Jansson
Dersom trenere og sportslig ledelse hadde gjort jobben sin i forkant, hadde den såkalte "skate off'en" vært helt unødvendig; da hadde man iht. nedfelte regler gjort seg sine vurderinger og sendt det laget til EM man iht. til foreliggende resultater og andre, relevante sportslige vurderinger mente var best. Med eller uten Solli. Skate Off er de facto en ny kvalifiseringsrunde, noe som neppe er holdbart iht. de fullmakter forbundsstyret har anledning til å gi det sportslige appratet sånn over natten når kvalifiseringsresultatene ikke blir som forventet. Utad virker dette useriøst og gir dessuten unødvendig næring til diskusjonen rundt Peter Muellers modus operandi i forhold til løperne, klubbene, skøyteforbundet og idretts-Norge som sådan. Denne ulmende konflikten, som har medført at et flertall av våre beste løpere har valgt å tre ut av landslaget kan ikke fortsette; tyren må tas ved hornene og grensene for hva landslagsapparatet kan tillate seg og ikke må gåes opp umiddelbart. I dag fremstår det for almenheten som om Mueller har for stor makt og innflytelse, uten at resultatene rettferdiggjør hans handlinger. At han på TV til tider kan fremstå som cool og underholdende gjør ham ikke til en optimal landslagstrener; det er jo dét han er ansatt som - ikke som klovn! Sponsorene vil nok - i disse finansielt vanskelige tider - følge Forbundet og Mueller med argusøyne. Det burde ikke overraske noen om de vil kreve større bredde i toppen og dermed flere løpere i det offisielle landslaget - henger sammen - en hva tilfellet er i dag.
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